Johnson / Bryans Families

Tracing the ancestry of Pamela Murdoch Bryans and Maurice Alan Johnson

Michael Turner

Male 1772 - Abt 1828  (55 years)

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  • Name Michael Turner 
    Relationshipwith Marion Murdoch Johnson
    Gender Male 
    Birth 29 Sep 1772  [1
    Baptism 26 Oct 1772  St John-at-Hampstead, Middlesex, England, Kingdom of Great Britain Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Death Abt Feb 1828 
    Burial 12 Feb 1828  Putney, Surrey, England, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Last Modified 15 Mar 2021 

    Father John Turner
              b. 29 Jul 1742  
              d. Abt Jul 1831 (Age 88 years) 
    Mother Eleanor Griffith
              b. 22 Jul 1742  
              d. Abt Dec 1800 (Age 58 years) 
    Marriage 25 Jan 1765  Lambeth, London Find all individuals with events at this location  [3

    Wife Mary Elizabeth Fülling
              b. 14 Mar 1777, St George Hanover Square, Westminster, Middlesex, England, Kingdom of Great Britain Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Dec 1840 (Age 63 years) 
    Marriage License 27 Oct 1795  St George Hanover Square, Westminster, Middlesex, England, Kingdom of Great Britain Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Marriage 28 Oct 1795  St George Hanover Square, Westminster, Middlesex, England, Kingdom of Great Britain Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Age at Marriage Michael was 23 years old - Mary was 18 years old. 
    Children 
     1. John Fülling Turner
              b. 6 Oct 1796, London Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 1874 (Age 77 years)
     2. Mary Turner
              b. 25 Nov 1797, London Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. Michael Turner
              b. 10 Feb 1799  
              d. 1873 (Age 73 years)
     4. Charles Turner
              b. 1 May 1800
     5. Skinner Turner
              b. Abt Aug 1801
     6. William Turner
              b. 27 Feb 1803
     7. Nathaniel Turner
              b. 1804
     8. Fanny Turner
              b. 13 Feb 1806  
              d. 28 Jun 1877, Erith, Kent, England, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 71 years)
     9. Septimus Turner
              b. 19 Mar 1808
     10. George Octavius Turner
              b. 22 Jun 1809
     11. Alfred Brahm Turner
              b. 17 Aug 1810
     12. James Turner
              b. 1811  
              d. Bef 1921 (Age < 109 years)
     13. Frank Turner
              b. 29 Jan 1813  
              d. Aft 1861 (Age > 49 years)
     14. Elinor Turner
              b. Abt 1814  
              d. 1910, Kent, England, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 96 years)
     15. Susan Turner
              b. Abt 1816
     16. Henry Turner
              b. 7 Oct 1817
     17. Ferdinand Turner
              b. 17 Nov 1818  
              d. 19 Aug 1819 (Age 0 years)
    Last Modified 7 Apr 2021 

  • Notes 
    • Early Life
      Michael Turner was born on the 29th of September 1772 and baptised on the 26th of October that year at St John-at-Hampstead in London. His parents were John Turner and Eleanor Griffith. L_1946_Turner_Bryans1 speaks of the older ancestry of the Turners, with a link back to William the Conqueror and Duncan I of Scotland. I have not found these two connections, but they almost certainly exist; via the FitzWilliam ancestors it is possible to get back to Charlemagne.

      Family Life
      Michael married Mary Elizabeth Fülling, daughter of the naturalised Prussian immigrant Thomas Fülling (originally from Hanover), on the 27th of October 1795 at St George Hanover Square in London. Mary was only 18 at the time of marriage (and hence too young to marry without the permission of her father). Consequently, the marriage licence reads:
      Appeared personally Michael Turner Esquire, and made Oath that he is of the Parish of Saint Dunstan in the West, London, Bachelor aged twenty-one years and upwards and intendeth to intermarry with Mary Elizabeth Fülling of the parish of Saint George Hanover Square in the County of Middlesex, Spinster, and eighteen years and upwards & a minor by and with the consent of Mary Fülling of the same parish, widow, the natural and lawful mother of the said minor.

      Then appeared personally the said Mary Fülling, widow, and made oath that the said Mary Elizabeth Fülling the bride aforesaid hath not any father, ?? or any Testamentary or other guardian appointed to her and that she the aforesaid is her natural and lawful mother and is consenting to the above intended marriage.


      Michael and Mary had 17(!) children:

      1. John Fülling, born 1796, who married Jane Engleheart
      2. Mary, born 1797, who married Charles Maingy
      3. Michael, born 1799
      4. Charles, born 1800
      5. Skinner, born 1801
      6. William, born 1803
      7. Nathanial, born 1804
      8. Fanny, born 1806, who married William McPherson Rice
      9. Septimus, born 1808
      10. George Octavius, born 1809
      11. Alfred Brahm, born 1810
      12. James, born 1811
      13. Frank, born 1813, who married Mary Jane Gibbon
      14. Elinor, born 1814, who married James Ind Welldon
      15. Susan, born 1816
      16. Henry, born 1817
      17. Ferdinand, born 1818


      Death
      Michael died in February 1828, aged 55, and was buried on the 12th in Putney, London. His wife Mary survived him for twelve years, dying in 1840.

      Footnotes
      [1] L_1946_Turner_Bryans was written in 1946 by Major-General James Gibbon Turner (son of Frank Turner b.1813, listed above) to Fanny Curtis Mitchell, who would have been his 1st cousin twice removed

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBaptism - 26 Oct 1772 - St John-at-Hampstead, Middlesex, England, Kingdom of Great Britain Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage License - 27 Oct 1795 - St George Hanover Square, Westminster, Middlesex, England, Kingdom of Great Britain Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 28 Oct 1795 - St George Hanover Square, Westminster, Middlesex, England, Kingdom of Great Britain Link to Google Earth
     = Link to Google Earth 

  • Sources 
    1. [S0133] Ancestry, London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812, (ancestry.co.uk), 1772, Michael Turner; London Metropolitan Archives; London, England; Reference Number: P81/JN1/063.

    2. [S0325] FamilySearch, England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991, (familysearch.org), 12 Feb 1828, Michael Turner; (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8MX-529 : 9 February 2018), Michael Turner, burial 12 Feb 1828; citing Putney, Surrey, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL micro (Reliability: 1).
      This seems likely to the be the correct burial, because the location is Putney, but this is a relatively low confidence assumption.

    3. [S0255] Ancestry, London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921, (ancestry.co.uk), 25 Jan 1765, Turner / Griffith; Ancestry.com. London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

    4. [S0255] Ancestry, London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921, (ancestry.co.uk), 27 Oct 1795, Michael Turner / Mary Elizabeth Fulling.

    5. [S0509] Ancestry, Westminster, London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935, (ancestry.co.uk), 28 Oct 1795, Michael Turner / Elizabeth Fulling; City of Westminster Archives Centre; London, England; Westminster Church of England Parish Registers; Reference: STC/PR/5/10.