David Ramsay, of Lethandie & Mungall

Abt 1675 - 1736  (~ 61 years)

• Name	David Ramsay
  Relationship	with Marion Murdoch Johnson
  Gender	Male
  Birth	Abt 1675
  Occupation	7 Aug 1695
  	Lawyer (Writer to the Signet)
  Death	Jul 1736  [1]
  Last Modified	27 Apr 2022

  
  

  Father	William Ramsay, of Murthly           b. Abt 1645             d. Bef Jan 1676 (Age ~ 30 years)
  Mother	Margaret Campbell           b. Abt 1650

  
  

  Wife 1	Jean Campbell           b. Abt 1680
  Marriage	20 Apr 1692	Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland   [1]
  Age at Marriage	David was ~ 17 years old - Jean was ~ 12 years old.
  Last Modified	27 Apr 2022

  
  

  Wife 2	Euphemia Elphinstone           b. Abt 1675
  Marriage	30 Jun 1699	Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland   [2, 3]
  Age at Marriage	David was ~ 24 years old - Euphemia was ~ 24 years old.
  Children	1. Michael Ramsay           b. Abt Sep 1702             d. Bef 1812 (Age ~ 109 years)   2. Rachel Ramsay           b. Abt May 1707             d. Bef 1817 (Age ~ 109 years)   3. James Ramsay           b. Abt Jul 1708             d. Bef 1818 (Age ~ 109 years)   4. Margaret Ramsay           b. Abt 1710             d. 1767 (Age ~ 57 years)   5. Alexander Ramsay           b. Abt Jun 1712             d. Bef 1822 (Age ~ 109 years)   6. William Ramsay           b. Abt Jul 1715             d. Bef 1825 (Age ~ 109 years)   7. David Ramsay           b. Abt Mar 1718             d. Bef 1828 (Age ~ 109 years)   8. John Ramsay           b. Abt Oct 1719             d. Bef 1829 (Age ~ 109 years)   9. Robert Ramsay           b. Abt Feb 1721             d. Bef 1831 (Age ~ 109 years)
  Last Modified	29 Aug 2021

  
  

• Notes

  Early Life David Ramsay was most likely born c. 1675, the son of William Ramsay of Murthly and Margaret Campbell. Career The following is from the Scottish Antiquary1: Mr David Ramsay of Lethendy and Murthly, co. Perth, Writer to the Signet, who afterwards acquired Mungall, co. Stirling, was son of Mr William Ramsay of Murthly, by Margaret Campbell, his spouse (Perthshire Sasines). Was this Margaret Campbell of the family of Campbell of Murthly? Mr William Ramsay of Murthly was son of David Ramsay in Grantullie (Reg. Privy Seal). I will be glad of any information as to Mr William, or as to the descent of his father, David Ramsay. In some editions of Burke's Peerage (voce Sir Archibald Campbell, Bart) it is stated that Duncan Campbell of Dunneaves married Grace, daughter of David Ramsay of Lethendy and Murthly, the Writer to the Signet being evidently intended; but this seems impossible; she was more likely sister or aunt. He might have had a brother James (https://rps.ac.uk/search.php?a=fcf&fn=williamii_trans&id=56982&t=trans) In any case, I haven't found any independent proof of David's heritage beyond the above mention in the Scottish Antiquary. The more convincing Ancestry trees also seem to have taken this route, but I'll hold off until I get more reliable evidence. Family Life David Ramsay married first Jean Campbell in 1692, and second on 30th June 1699 Euphemia Elphinstone, daughter of Michael Elphinstone of Quarrell. After this second marriage he settled at Mungall, near Falkirk. Death Scotland's People has a number of records for the death of a David Ramsay in Edinburgh (which is where I assume he died) in the period 1721 to 1736 but I haven't tried them all to see if there is any clear evidence of one being for the right person. Red Book3 quotes a death date of July 1736. Footnotes [1] The Scottish Antiquary, or, Northern Notes and Queries Vol. 8, No. 31 (1894), pp. 137-142 (6 pages), available at jstor.org [2] See the entry for David in the Society of Writers to the Signet for some details, including estimated death. [3] The Red Book of Scotland, Gordon MacGregor, 2021 Edition; Vol. 8, pages 281-285

  
  

• Event Map

  Marriage - 20 Apr 1692 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Marriage - 30 Jun 1699 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Sources

  [S0496] Gordon MacGregor, Red Book of Scotland, The, (Scotland (2016)), Ramsay of Murthly, Mungall and Kersehill; Vol. 8, pages 281-285. [S0380] National Records of Scotland, Old Parish Registers - Marriages, (scotlandspeople.gov.uk), 30 Jun 1699, Ramsay, David; 685/1 450 63 Edinburgh. [S0186] Ancestry, Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910, (ancestry.co.uk), 30 Jun 1699, David Ramsay / Euphemia Elphinston; FHL Film Number 1066689, 0103045.